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I can't say how disappointed I and my site members are that this feature was eliminated with virtually no notice. I consider our site greatly degraded as a result. Here's what I posted to members about the issue: https://cookieconnection.julia...ss-member-portfolios

People come to our site to post and find cookie photos - now the path to do the latter is so convoluted that it's virtually impossible to do. One of the primary benefits of my site was lost overnight, with no discussion.

Members now also have no easy way of managing their own photo portfolios on the site, as they are so tough to find - and very difficult to see (thumbnails are teeny).

As an admin, I used members' Content Streams to identify members to feature, to find cookie photos to use in the site's banner and backdrop, to monitor members' posts to the site (to ensure compliance with copyright rules), and more. Now, all of these tasks are greatly hampered.

So there are plenty of good reasons to reinstate that stream. I would also recommend that it return to its original form with big photos. The teeny photos found through searching all posts for photos are too small to reasonably/easily browse - not to mention very deeply embedded and hard to isolate in members' profiles.

So disappointed. Thanks for listening.

JU
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Funny that we use the Activity Stream for different reasons than yours, Julie. (See mine at https://hey.crowdstack.com/top...8#537112316318869088)

Seems Rich’s OGR community used it for reasons similar to yours and laments the change.

I trust Stack made the change for good technical reasons but didn’t know why or how much it would be missed by a small group of us (I wouldn’t have guessed your reasons for example). I wish I had seen Ted’s Oct 1 announcement but like you, I tend to get buried by β€œnotifications.”

I wonder what new and improved feature(s) would be a better replacement for yours and our needs, rather than just reinstating old and apparently wonky code. Moving forward is always better than back.

What do you think, Stack?




neil
@neil posted:

Funny that we use the Activity Stream for different reasons than yours, Julie. (See mine at https://hey.crowdstack.com/top...8#537112316318869088)

Seems Rich’s OGR community used it for reasons similar to yours and laments the change.

I trust Stack made the change for good technical reasons but didn’t know why or how much it would be missed by a small group of us (I wouldn’t have guessed your reasons for example). I wish I had seen Ted’s Oct 1 announcement but like you, I tend to get buried by β€œnotifications.”

I wonder what new and improved feature(s) would be a better replacement for yours and our needs, rather than just reinstating old and apparently wonky code. Moving forward is always better than back.

What do you think, Stack?




Glad to know I am not the only one out there who laments the change! (I love your obituary/eulogy, BTW.) I imagine there is a way to code this content so it's easier to maintain, but that's Crowdstack territory. I am just concerned about the loss of value and functionality to my site . . . onward. Hopefully, they will figure out something to make this better.

JU

Julie, β€œleaving it up to them” is what got you in trouble in the first place.

I doubt we’re gonna get the A.S. reinstated as it was, but I’ll bet they can come up with a new solution if we explain ourselves (which you’ve done).

@art We used the AS for that too. Very convenient way to survey recent action on the site  The Content Stream and Interaction widgets can give you the same intel.

Hey Stack: Maybe the sites who didn’t use the A.S. just didn’t realize what a useful gem it was.

neil
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I agree - under-utilization doesn't mean it wasn't a valuable feature. So many reasons it might be underutilized. And how is utilization even measured? It sounds like many here, myself included, relied on it heavily for admin purposes. Maybe the general user doesn't use it as much on a daily basis, but admin tasks ought to be weighed heavily as they are key to keeping these communities going.

Also, I only meant to say that writing the code is not my job (it isn't); my job is to be clear about the functionality that my site needs and values. I think I've been clear about that - now, I hope someone will act on it. The more value that gets pared away, and the more make-work that I have to deal with after each update, the less psyched I become about maintaining my community.

JU

HI @Julie Usher, @neil, and @art,

You'll all be happy to know that we are expediting this feature request this week. The feature won't be identical to the old Activity tab in the profile, but it will contain a chronological list of all of the member's primary posts (which excludes replies/comments).

This will hopefully be out and ready by the end of the week.

Thanks for all of your feedback!

Best,

Brian

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Technically speaking, the "Posts" tab should be labeled "TOPICS STARTED" because that's what it displays. A "post" can include a "comment/reply."

Not sure that's a feature I would ever use, as the "search" feature is more helpful, especially if I'm looking for a member's "reply."

The "Display All Posts" link in the Member Profile Page is the searchable feature, but is it only viewable by mods????

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@neil Disagree. Our members post photos, videos, blog post and forum topics - not just topics. Photos are what they post most often. I think "posts" is probably the best all-encompassing phrase to capture what could be contained here. but maybe you have the ability to change the name in "wordlets" or whatever it is called now??

Don't disagree until you look at it, Julie.

TO ME it looks like the "new" post tab is ONLY showing TOPICS started by the member, not subsequent replies/posts/attachments. Maybe that's what you want, but if they post a photo in a reply, the new POST TAB will not show that reply.

I looked at my own "post tab" and it all looks like this even though I've posted several replies with attachments in the last 20 minutes.

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@neil, you can change the word "Posts" in your Wording CP if a different term is a better fit for your Crowdstack. One important thing to remember (and specifically why your suggestion of "Topics Started" wouldn't work) is that most sites support multiple content types. We feel the "Posts" term perfectly encompasses what is there. And, yes, you're right that replies/comments are intentionally not included in this list. If you're looking for all posts including replies/comments, you can always continue to use the Display All Posts link. Note that the "Display All Posts" link will only appear to users who have the ability to search on your Crowdstack (based on the Can Search permission; so it's not moderator specific).

@Julie Usher, sounds good! Glad you're liking it at first glance πŸ™

Brian Lenz

@Neil, I did look at my profile and another member's before disagreeing, and it looks like just what I want. Just first/initial postings of things - but all things, including clips, blog posts, forum topics, etc. We post way more than forum topics on our site, and photos are the most important to us. Most people don't want to wade through people's comments on every post; they just want to see the primary content they've posted when they look on their member profile.

JU

Thanks Brian. I agree that "post" is a generic term describing anything you put on the site ...which also includes replies/comments. But since I'm not looking for anything out of the posts tab, and you are still healing from last week, I'll let it be.   My Activity Stream needs (stated elsewhere) related to showing all activity (a true stream) and see... I'm letting that go too.

That said, I think I will rename the "Posts" tab as "Topics Started" to avoid any confusion on our site. Good idea.

Julie I'm glad it works for you. Our site is apparently not organized like yours. Most of our replies are not "comments" or discussion on the original topic post. Rather, 90% of our replies are more like sub-topics or additions to the original topic.

Thanks Brian for pointing out that those with search permissions can see the Display All Posts link. That is what we want. (Wondering why that wasn't included as one of the tabs, but hey, it's quittin time.)

neil
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